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Reporting ex to the CSA

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05 Feb 13 #378267 by blonde cazza
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Survive my ex isn''t self employed but i was told I request his wage is checked every 6 month''s if I wish.

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05 Feb 13 #378269 by survive
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what direct to him or by asking for accounts?

I know if I asked ex, he would lie and tell me to ''go jump''

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05 Feb 13 #378275 by blonde cazza
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My ex isn''t self employed...but csa have told him I can have his wages checked every 6 month''s if I wish.I asked my ex for monthly amount but was giving me so many different figures hence why I went through c.sa to access and collect x

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05 Feb 13 #378277 by BoysMum
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Hi Survive,

All the time you have a private agreement in place, you have no chance of asking to check his income. Like you said, he would tell you to take a running jump.

If you were to claim via the CSA, they will check his earning via HMRC and calculate payments on his declared income. If you were to go down this route, you could request that they check his declared income on a yearly basis.

But beware, many NRP suddenly turn hostile when the CSA become involved. You could find yourself in a position that he suddenly declares a very low income. Also, the Self Employed have an awful lot of wriggle room with the CSA where collecting payments are concerned. Its not easy for them to collect from a Self Employed person who simply pays as and when they feel like it. They cannot do a Deductions Of Earnings order and deduct from source. It can be a very messy and long game.

If your ex is paying you regularly, albeit rather a small sum, it might be better to take it. There are pro''s and con''s but from experience, the CSA''s hands are pretty much tied when it comes to dealing with the Self Employed.

I hope this helps.x

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05 Feb 13 #378278 by survive
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thanks yes that does, I don''t want to be any worse off.
Albeit if CSA did check with HMRC, what he declares is very low as opposed to what he earns.

Are you sugessting then that maybe just accept this for the next 10 years?

Survive

(again apologies, don''t mean to impose on original poster)

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05 Feb 13 #378280 by BoysMum
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Hi,

No, i''m not suggesting that, but just think that if he is paying you something on a regular basis, you might be better off:unsure:

My ex is self employed and has been assessed at £20 per child per week. I have only ever received one £50 payment. The CSA have summons him to court, they have secured a Liability Order against him, but they are still unable to collect any money from him.

I know it feels unfair, and i''m in complete agreement with you, but the Self Employed and CSA system is worse than useless.

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05 Feb 13 #378282 by Fiona
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There was a case back in November, Gray v Sec of State for Works & Pensions [2012] EWCA Civ 1412, that means a CSA decision maker can evaluate the non-resident parent''s actual profits from self-employment rather than rely on figures from HMRC. That means it should be more difficult for the self-employed to minimise CM payments.

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