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ex maybe going to csa?

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22 Oct 13 #410964 by Bobbinalong
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After paying an agreed sum for the past 5 years which was calculated fromt eh csa website using their guidelines, my ex seems to have greedy spurt occuring and in her latest email is threatening csa.
If she does, she will get more.
Does anyone know what happens?
I understand that they base it on your p60 info?
Will they ask for my last p60?
I also understand that, if I pay her direct there is no charge from them, if I make them collect it, it cost me an extra 20% and her 7% of the amount of CM.

If she does apply to CSA how soon would I know?:(

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22 Oct 13 #410968 by TBagpuss
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it will be based on your income.

If you have been paying the same amount for 5 years than it is probably reasonable to review it - costs of living have gone up and if you think you''ll now pay more then presumably your income has risen as well.

I would suggest that you look at the current CSA calculator and work out what you should be paying, then try to come to an agreement with her to pay that on a voluntary basis so you don'';t have to involve the CSA.

If she does apply to the CSA, they would normally write to you to ask for your financial information so you would usually hear within a week or so of her application, then how quickly they carry out the assessment would depend on how quickly you get your information to them. The clock would run from when they first write to you, though, so if you do hear from them, make sure that any payments you make to your ex are provable (e.g. by DD or Standing Order with a reference ''child maintenance''

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22 Oct 13 #411000 by maisymoos
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I find James stance very hard to understand. DNA tests??? how will this make the children feel?

Both parents have a obligation and hopefully a wish to support their children, I fail to understand how someone would fight tooth and nail to avoid doing so, the only ones that really suffer from this type of attitude are the children.. how can this be desirable?

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22 Oct 13 #411016 by mumtoboys
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James Connolly wrote:

You will hear quickly from the CSA. They will send you forms demanding that you provide them with financial information (you are legally obliged to do so).

As TBagpuss said the clock starts from the moment the other parent contacts the CSA. They might not put the arrangements to collect money in place for months but you will then be expected to pay the money owed from that period.

You can either play ball and do as they ask or you can do everything within your power to frustrate them.

You can demand DNA tests, which with a certain amount of delaying tactics can hold off payments for between 4-6 months. This is also a smart move as many men have paid support for 10-15 years only to then find out that their ex had cheated on them all those years back and they have just paid for another mans child.

Then the real killer is to start a limited company and then pay yourself a minimal salary. I did this and the CSA now come to me with demands for £6 a week for two children. If I fail to pay they will send the baliffs round, take my car or possibly throw me in prison. Understandably I pay the £6 a week and then I never hear from the CSA again.

If the ex will not negotiate then do not let her use the CSA to bully you.


madness, pure madness. I have seen enough of bobbin over the years to know he''s not daft enough to go down this route. As for ''she should try being nice'', do you think fighting fire with fire is honestly going to help? You do realise you have to pay for DNA tests, don''t you?

Bobbin - if you come under the new rules, you will have the chance to continue to pay your ex directly which won''t cost you the extra 20%. If you miss a payment, the CSA will take over and you have to pay the admin charge. I know there was a lot of fear when the charging was first mooted that PWC would take the NRP to the CSA for the sake of it, particularly as the admin charge is so uneven in how it affects both ''sides''. It is therefore built in that as long as you pay and don''t miss payments, you can pay directly and there is nothing she can do about this so please don''t worry on that score.

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22 Oct 13 #411020 by Bobbinalong
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Mumtoboys your quite right. I can see both sides to this, when people use the csa for vengeance.
However I have been paying nearly £300 a month, it would be nice if we could sit down and work out an update.
No, she wants to go the whole hog.
I have just started again at 47 mortgage bills everything. I spend most of my spare money on the kids.
I save money for them and their holidays.
I pay cm.
If my ex uses the csa, I will have to pay more, because my p60 would show I did a bit of overtime this year.
This would then probably mean I wouldn''t be able to keep our caravan that the kids have hols in, I wouldn''t be able then to keep my car, insurance and storage etc is paid for.
I wouldn''t be able to have such a wonderful Xmas and buy them what they want, who''s suffering? The kids.
Because mum has a new boyfriend who jets off to las Vegas and Corfu, she is going too,MIT would be rather nice is she had some extra money in her pocket to pay for the odd drink!
The kids haven''t had a holiday wi her in the last two years, I have done all that for them, but she has been to France, Corfu, Ireland etc. rant, yeah, I am....

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22 Oct 13 #411025 by perin123
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James Connolly wrote:

Bobbin that is cause enough to go down the limited company route and then buy things directly for the children.

I pay £6 a week and I am putting aside £100 a week for both of my children. When they reach 18 and my ex is no longer their legal guardian then with a certain amount of supervision I will make the money available to them.


At least you are giving to you kids in a different way. My ex "went down the ltd company route" so he could pay less, plain and simple.:(

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22 Oct 13 #411027 by Justaparent
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James.

Has your ex and children got enough money to live on now, and to a similar standard they had?

£6 a week doesn''t go very far.

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