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22 May 14 #434352 by scfisher
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me and ex have a voluntary arrangement based on calculator on Child options Website

This is based on a percentage according to the web site plus deduction for the nights they are with me.

What I am interested in is what counts as "other children the paying parent supports"

I live in a 3 bedroomed house and when i have my children i base myself out of that house.

But for other half the week i live with girlfriend who has two children. I pay towards days out, food etc. Does that mean I am entitled to a deduction for the two children of girlfriend (who are not mine).


thanks in advance

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22 May 14 #434372 by mumtoboys
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is your partner claiming to be single to the DWP, HMRC etc? Or do you claim as a couple? Does she claim the Council Tax discount for being a single adult in her house?

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22 May 14 #434378 by scfisher
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No she does not claim single persons council tax. She does not claim child benefit as her earnings just push her over threshold.

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22 May 14 #434379 by MrsMathsisfun
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If you share a home with a partner who has children then you can make a deduction before working out how much you pay your ex. Not sure of the % but you reduce your gross income by that % than work out child maintenance.

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22 May 14 #434380 by scfisher
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I think what I am trying to work isbwhatbcounts as sharing a home.


Ie if I lived all the time with girlfriend I assume that is easily proven


If I worked away for a couple of days a week and came back to girlfriends then that is a valid scenario.

In my case half the week when i have kids I stay in house in my name. For other half of week I stay at girlfriends. That includes alternate weekends.
Is that a valid scenario?

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22 May 14 #434382 by MrsMathsisfun
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If your not living there full time maybe it would be unreasonable to apply the discount. What are the long term plans?

My husband was in a similar situation. He didn''t apply the discount but informed his ex if she applied to the csa at anytime he would claim it.

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31 May 14 #435360 by Child Maintenance Options
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Hi scfisher

Thank you for your post. I am William the Child Maintenance Options consultant. I will provide some information that may help answer your query.

If you wanted to use the statutory child maintenance rules that are employed by the Child Maintenance Service, when a paying parent has another child that they need to support, the Child Maintenance Service needs to see proof that Child Benefit is being paid for that child before they can change your payments. The date of the change will be taken from the date at which Child Benefit starts being paid. You can find more information on how the Child Maintenance Service works out child maintenance on Gov.uk at www.gov.uk/how-child-maintenance-is-work...ut-child-maintenance. You may also wish to contact the Child Maintenance Service directly to discuss your query.

However, you have mentioned that you pay child maintenance via a family-based arrangement. With this type of agreement, there are no strict rules to stick to. Therefore, both you and your ex-partner have the freedom to decide the terms of your own arrangement, such as how your child maintenance will be calculated. The main thing is that both you and your ex-partner are in agreement and your arrangement remains amicable.

A family-based arrangement can include money and other kinds of support, such as you directly paying for things that your children may need. Although family-based arrangements are not legally-binding, many parents prefer them because of their flexibility and how easy the arrangement can be reviewed, such as if you or your ex-partner’s circumstances change. You can find more information on family-based arrangement on our website at www.cmoptions.org/en/family/index.asp.

We have a range of tools and guides on our website that you may find useful (www.cmoptions.org/en/toolbox/index.asp). We have a discussion guide which you can use to help you plan your conversations around child maintenance. We also have a family-based arrangement form that is not a legally-binding document but if used to write down what both of you have agreed, it can help to formalise your arrangement.

To give you an indication of how much child maintenance that may be calculated if you were to use the Child Maintenance Service, we have an online calculator on our website at www.cmoptions.org/en/calculator/. Some parents use the figure provided as a starting point to negotiate a family-based arrangement.

For more information on the ways to set up child maintenance, please visit our website at www.cmoptions.org. Alternatively, you can call us free on 0800 988 0988 between 8am and 8pm Monday to Friday or 9am and 4pm on a Saturday.

Regards

William

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