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16 Apr 15 #459908 by blue_planet
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Hi,

Would be very grateful if somebody can please explain the difference in the way CSA calculate self employed (sole trader) maintenance for those on CSA2 and those on the new CSA3?

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17 Apr 15 #459914 by rubytuesday
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Calculations are made in the same way for self-employed non-resident parents as those who are employed. The CSA does have to calculate the earnings differently by working out the average weekly earnings for the past tax year. If this cannot be done, i.e. the business has not been up and running for a full year, then the CSA will use the gross income of the business to date. Reasonable business expenses and VAT are then deducted to obtain a weekly income figure, which is used to determine which rate of child maintenance should be paid.

CSA3 is calculated on the gross income of the paying parent:

the basic rate is the following percentage of the non-resident parent''s gross weekly income—.
12% where the non-resident parent has one qualifying child;
16% where the non-resident parent has two qualifying children;
19% where the non-resident parent has three or more qualifying children.
(2) If the gross weekly income of the non-resident parent exceeds £800, the basic rate is the aggregate of the amount found by applying sub-paragraph (1) in relation to the first £800 of that income and the following percentage of the remainder— .
9% where the non-resident parent has one qualifying child;
12% where the non-resident parent has two qualifying children;
15% where the non-resident parent has three or more qualifying children.
(3) If the non-resident parent also has one or more relevant other children, gross weekly income shall be treated for the purposes of sub-paragraphs (1) and (2) as reduced by the following percentage—.
12% where the non-resident parent has one relevant other child;
16% where the non-resident parent has two relevant other children;
19% where the non-resident parent has three or more relevant other children.

CSA2 was calculated on the net income of the paying parent and in basic form was:15% for one child; 20% for two, and 25% for three children.

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17 Apr 15 #459927 by blue_planet
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Hi Ruby, thanks for your response. I''m trying to understand what gross income is for a sole trader?

So if a sole trader plumbing business makes:

15k per year
5k are all business expenses
10k is profit

Under csa2 you would be assessed on 10k after tax and ni. For csa3 would this be the same but before tax and ni or would you be assessed on the 15k the business makes instead?

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20 Apr 15 #460053 by Child Maintenance Options
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Hello Blue_planet

The Child Support Agency (CSA) calculates child maintenance based on the paying parent’s net income. I have included a link on how the CSA calculates child maintenance that you may find helpful, [www.gov.uk/how-child-maintenance-is-work...ut-child-maintenance]how the csa works out cm[/url]

The Child Maintenance Service calculates child maintenance based on the paying parent’s gross income. I have also included a link on how the Child Maintenance Service calculates child maintenance that you may find useful, how the cms works out cm

For more information on the different ways to set up child maintenance and for a more personalised service, you can visit the Child Maintenance Options website at www.cmoptions.org

The DWP have a sorting out separation web-app that you may find useful. It offers help and support to separating and separated families. The link is: Sorting OUt Separation

Regards

William

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21 Apr 15 #460152 by Fiona
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The Child Maintenance Service uses information held by HMRC. Self employment income is defined as the taxable profits of any "trade, profession or vocation." Profits are determined for the most recently completed tax year or accounting period in the self assessment tax return. So if the taxable profit is £10k that would be the figure used to calculate child maintenance.

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