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19 Jul 10 #214949 by icallea1
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Can anyone tell me how my estranged wife is receiving child and working tax credits of £7240 per year. She earns nearly 20k per year

All our kids are over 18. Only our daughter who is 19 is living at home and in full time employment. The boys 23 and 21 live with their partners respectively

I do not live with her anymore and I am concerned she is committing benifit fraud and I DO NOT WANT TO BE DRAGGED INTO ANY PROCEEDINGS

Everbody has told me to inform the Inland revenue but I am concrened I might get dragged into the situation

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19 Jul 10 #214952 by WhiteRose
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Just posted this on your other thread.

Hiya,

Just been looking on the HMR&C website:

www.hmrc.gov.uk/taxcredits/keep-up-to-date/changes-aff ect/family-change/child-16.htm#3

Your child reaches 16 - are you still entitled to tax credits?

When your child reaches 16 you can only get tax credits for them if they're staying on at school or college, or starting an approved training course. You need to tell the Tax Credit Office your child's plans or they’ll stop their tax credits payments on 31 August after their 16th birthday. You also need to tell them if they stop their studies or training.

On this page:

* If your child is aged 16 to 19 and in full-time education
* If your child is aged 16 to 19 and on a training course
* If your child is 16 or 17 and has left full-time education or training
* If your child starts work or goes on benefits
* Keeping the Tax Credit Office up to date
* Contact the Tax Credit Office
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If your child is aged 16 to 19 and in full-time education

If your child is aged 16 but under the age of 20, you can claim tax credits for them as long as they're in full-time education.

Usually this will be in a school or college, studying for qualifications like:

* A levels
* Scottish Highers
* NVQ at Level 3

You won’t be able to get tax credits if your child’s education is:

* provided by their employer or through any office they hold (for example a scout leader or councillor)
* an advanced course at higher education level, such as a degree

'Full-time' means they're taught or supervised for more than an average of 12 hours a week.

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If your child is aged 16 to 19 and on a training course

If your child is over 16 but under the age of 20, you can claim tax credits for them as long as they're on an approved training course and it isn’t provided by a contract of employment. Approved courses:

* don't pay wages
* teach the skills your child needs to do a job

For a training course to be approved it should be one of the following:

* England - Entry to Employment or Programme Led Apprenticeships
* Scotland - Get Ready for Work, Skillseekers or Modern Apprenticeships
* Wales - Foundation Modern Apprenticeships, Skillbuild or Skillbuild+
* Northern Ireland - Access or Training for Success: Professional and Technical Training

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If your child is 16 or 17 and has left full-time education or training

Tax credits payments usually stop on 31 August after your child’s 16th birthday. But you may be able to get tax credits for up to 20 weeks instead. The 20 weeks start from the date they left the education or training.

To qualify for these extra weeks, your child needs to be aged 16 or 17 and be registered with any of the following:

* in England - the local careers service or Connexions
* in Scotland or Wales - the local careers service
* in Northern Ireland - the Department for Employment and Learning or an Education or Library Board
* the Ministry of Defence, for example if your child joins HM Forces
* a similar organisation to others in this list in any European Economic Area country

You must let the Tax Credit Office know within three months of your child leaving education or training that they have registered with any of these organisations. If you don’t, you won’t be able to get the extra money.
Countries in the European Economic Area

EEA countries are Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxemburg, Malta, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden and the UK.
If your child starts work or goes on benefits

Your tax credits payments will stop straightaway if one of the following applies:

* your child leaves full-time education or approved training, works 24 hours or more a week and gets paid
* your child goes on benefits or starts getting tax credits

But your payments can continue if your child works and both of the following apply:

* your child stays in full-time education or training – as long as it qualifies for tax credits
* your child must have applied, been accepted for or started their course before the age of 19

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Keeping the Tax Credit Office up to date
Changes to report within one month

Tell the Tax Credit Office within one month if your child:

* leaves full-time education or approved training before 31 August after their 16th birthday
* starts training that's provided as part of their job
* gets a paid job and they're usually paid to work for 24 hours or more a week
* starts to claim benefits or tax credits in their own right

If you don't report these changes, you might be paid too much tax credits. If the Tax Credit Office does overpay you, you'll usually have to pay the money back. They may also charge you a penalty.
Changes to report within three months

Tell the Tax Credit Office within three months if your child:

* stays on at school or college after they reach 16
* starts an approved training course after they reach 16
* stops full time education but registers with a careers service - like Connexions

If you don't, you'll only get tax credits for them until 31 August after their 16th birthday.
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Contact the Tax Credit Office

If you need more help or to report a change of circumstances, you can call the Tax Credit Helpline which is open from 8.00 am to 8.00 pm every day except Christmas Day, Boxing Day and New Year's Day. The numbers you can ring are:

* Tel 0845 300 3900
* Textphone 0845 300 3909 - if you are deaf or have a hearing or speech impairment

If you're calling from overseas you can also contact the Tax Credit Office on Tel + 44 289 053 8192

So it looks like if she is still receiving Child Tax credits, she shouldn't be claiming them ................ it is her responsibility to inform if circumstances change - if she hasn't and is found out - she would have to pay back the 'over payments'

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19 Jul 10 #214953 by icallea1
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It would seem then she is committing benifit fraud because she has been claiming this amount since 2007/8...nearly 22k in total

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19 Jul 10 #214954 by WhiteRose
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Eeeeek!

Its a difficult one - what to do .........

As a tax payer I'd want her to stop - do you know for sure she is still in receipt of these payments?

However as your ex I can understand you not wanting to get involved in it all ........

Unfortunately the longer it goes on the more she will have to pay back once discovered.

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19 Jul 10 #214956 by icallea1
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Yes she is still receiving £140 per week. I have tried to warn her but she is very stubborn and buries her head in the sand and hope it will go away
I agree as a tax payer we all have a responsibility to report tax fraud!

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19 Jul 10 #214984 by Deedum
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I am very surprised if your ex is receiving child tax credits for the children. Mine were automatically going to stop for my 16 year old daughter at the end of August this year as she was no longer a qualifying child.

I have had to inform them that she is going on to sixth form and they said they would send me a renewed claim in September when this would start.

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19 Jul 10 #215022 by bevs
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I would have no hesitation in reporting this fraud. She is not entitled to the money and does not need it, and is effectively stealing it from the more needy. No wonder this country is in a state when there are criminals like this going unreported.

Sorry to sound harsh but she is very wrong to be doing this, and you have an obligation to report it. How do you know your name is not on the claim as well? You can report it anonymously on their hotline, if you do not want her to know.

She will get found out sooner or later and the longer it goes on the worse it will be for her and the children, after all who wants their mother to be in court on benefit fraud?

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