CSA and ex's tax credits.

My husband was being honest and telling the CSA all our houshold income including claims in my name only because he told them they use it...we found out since that had he not TOLD them they wouldn't have been able to use it. I am writing a letter today to CSA telling them the claim is mine, it goes in my bank and I do not give him access to my account. I pay him his £41 per week only which is his WTC the rest is for me and our 3 children to live on and if they take us to court to make us pay it I will have no choice but to leave him!

I wouldn't mind but he always gives her money, buys them things when they need it and she wont let him see them!!

As far as i'm aware only WTC is taken into account as income , tbh the new family can't have it all in their favour , after all the first % goes to the relevant other children .

bubbles222 wrote:

As far as i'm aware only WTC is taken into account as income , tbh the new family can't have it all in their favour , after all the first % goes to the relevant other children .

No ALL tax credits are taken into account. we claim because our income is low and we get whet the LAW says we need to live on so it unfair to take a pecentage of that leaving us in poverty to give to someone who is too lazy to work and already claims in income support what the LAW says they need to live on. However we think bwe have found a way around it. Legaly my husband is not allowed access to my money and my bank accounts without my consent and that's what it is..only his £41.90 weekly WTC is actualy hisso if I refuse to give him anything but that then the CSA can't actualy touch it..aparently i can actualy sue my husband for giving out my fanincial information!! lol..how rediculas is that!! This country is bonkers!! haha. anyway i'll keep u all informed as to what happens!

Dear Donna1981xx,
I am most offended and dissapointed that you feel the need to insult me, as far as I am aware you have no idea if I am a disgusting woman, or vile for that matter!!! Wiki is here for the purpose of helping people and not judging. It would be imposible to go into all personal details, therefore you have no idea what has led any said person to ask for help.
Just for your information, 2yrs ago I had spent 2 years trying to MAKE my ex see his children.He had left me 2 yrs previously for another woman and then had a baby with her. He then tried to drop the money he paid me through a private agreement, as he had chosen to have another baby.He then TOLD ME to go through the CSA. I did not want them involved as is causes tension between all parties.I tried to explain to him that they would take into account his WTC but he did not believe me, THAT is why I asked the question, it also would prove to him that he was paying me too little.
My view is-only have more children if you can support the ones you already have. You seem very hung up on the law but fail to see that the law also dictates that the Child Tax credits should be included. Did you also know, as soeone else is unfortunately finding out, that if the new girlfriend earns considerably more than the NRP the first family gets nothing!!! The law is frequently wrong whichever side you are on.
On a happier note, 4 and a half years since he left me we are all good friends and both me and my husband and my exes new family and all children spent a lovely day at the coast this weekend and are all firm friends.
Just shows what can be achieved if you are not a vile and disgusting woman and have all children's best interests at heart!!!!

Ok, I appologize for my outburts and judgment of you. I should not have called you vile or disgusting.

You wrote "am really worried that when I go to the CSA, he will not include the tax credits his partner claims for their son as income, and worse, the CSA will not recognise it as income." This was the part that bothered me. tax credits is worked out as whet a family need to live on so it is unfair to count it as income, if we did not need it to live we would not be awarded it!

I agree with you about nt having children if you can't support the ones you already have but sometimes circumstances change after you start your second family. lose or change jobs etc etc so I wouldn't judge all fathers the same.

I am happy to hear that you now have a good relationship with your ex and his family, I too have the same kind of relationship with my older sons father :o) unfortunately it's not possible in all cases..I would love nothing more than my husband and his ex to have a good relationship for the sake of their children, I get on with her great most of the time but for some reason they can't even chat for 2 minutes without it ending in a screaming match! He offered her £100 per month, he was going to set up a standing order, this was a year ago..she laughed and said she would rather make his life hell!! She has spent the last 13 years telling him things like: you can only have them if you give me some money, i need new clothes i want to go out this weekend or you can only have them if you buy them new trainers but they ave to be these nike ones that are £80...she tells the kids on the few occasions that she allowed them to come here that they have to make sure he spens x amount of money on them! I just wish my children didn't have to suffer.

Just a footnote to all this and not really wanting to get drawn into the politics of the previous posts but ..... the common refrain is that the nrp shouldn't have more children unles they are able to support the ones they have already. However, no man/woman has children thinking that they will grow up apart from them. Many PWC actually frustrate and obstruct contact with children, thus depriving the nrp of their right to a family life, and they shout very loudly when the nrp has another child.
I am both a pwc and the partner of a nrp so am experiencing all of this from both sides of the fence!!

I see another side where I work hard and receive very little in tax credits. Mystbx new woman also works but claims 600 pound a monthin tax credits by saying he does not live with her! But he does live there. She alos gets maintenance for her ex and this weekend they are having a lovely break and we can't afford to go anywhere! Looks like fraud is the way forward for some.