Contact Orders and the CSA

Working Tax Credit will be treated as income where the non-resident parent is the main earner. Where the non-resident parent and their partner have equal earnings 50 per cent of the tax credit will be taken into account as income of the non-resident parent. Child Tax Credit will be taken into account as income of the non-resident parent whether it is paid to the non-resident parent or their partner.

Its not a variation that is used but a re assessment but Sarah may i ask you how you can blog about your ex asking for a variation for when you move yet you have no qualms in taking in effect what is your new partner's children's money.

Net weekly income
The amount of income (usually pay or salary) left after taking off things like income tax, National Insurance and payments into a pension scheme. Bonuses and commission also count as pay or salary. We don’t normally count dividends paid to a director of a limited company, unless the parent with care asks us to do so.

We count Working Tax Credit as income if the non-resident parent’s earnings are higher than their partner’s earnings. If the non-resident parent and their partner’s earnings are the same, we include half of the Working Tax Credit in the child maintenance calculation. We don’t count Working Tax Credit as income if the non-resident parent earns less than their partner

There is no mention of Child Tax Credit, therefore I read this to mean only Working Tax Credits.

I understand that my ex can ask for a variation if I move the children and it costs him to maintain contact with them. In my ex's case there are no other children involved. I know my ex plays the system and will do for the purposes of any variation also.

I am not about to try and defend anything that I have said, this is not what this thread was about.

My new partner's ex is on IS and the amount of money she receives in CM has an effect on her benefits. We are simply trying to ascertain the amount of money that my partner has to pay her as any additional money may effect her benefits. It will benefit all 9 children if the family has more income available.

Both my partner and I accept that we have both financial and moral responsibilities towards all 9 children, we are happy that we are doing this and don't need to justify ourselves. People are entitled to form opinions based on the information they are aware of. I accept that not everyone will have a good opinion. We are all individuals that have to make decisions that effect us on a daily basis and have to accept that these decisions will not always be seen as acceptable by others.

I would like to know the source of

Child Tax Credit will be taken into account as income of the non-resident parent whether it is paid to the non-resident parent or their partner.

if you don't mind Angel as my quote in this posting is copied from the CSA glossary.

xx Sarah xx

As you correctly stated 2 posts up i think it was as his ex is on IS your paying more money to the secretary of state so will not affect his ex's benefits she will still get her £20 p/w Cm + what she is entitled too.

It will be harder when she goes out to work and has to find the extra from somewhere as i told you long long ago when my ex moved in with her, how it affected my kids i see my payment go down by over 1k per yr- 1k that should be mine and his childrens money not another person's children's money.As that is 2 men supporting your kids and his ex will get next to nothing. I just think you would be very unfair and a hypocrite if you chose to do what you propose i would never allow anyone to use my kids in their calcualtion to reduce their liability to their own kids.You never know prehaps his ex will get the same as me in a court order that you won't be able to challenge as the court so rightly said to my ex you agreed to take her kids on your first responsibilty are your own kids so you need to bare that in mind too when your doing sums.I my sound harsh but i say how i see it for fairness for kids.

Like I have said, I am not going to get into a moral debate about the issues being raised, that is a whole new thread.

I would be grateful though if you could answer the last paragraph of my previous post Angel for purposes of establishing FACT not opinion.

Thank you

xx Sarah xx

Just merely pointing out how diff you sound when shoe on the other foot Sarah.