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NRP hiding income from CSA

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26 Mar 10 #194391 by naffedhubby
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I am the PWC for my son and receive Child Benefit and Tax Credits for him.

The NRP has just been assessed by the CSA and initially is having to pay the minimum £5 a week as has declared their income to be less than £100 p.w.

During mediation NRP produced a list of fixed monthly outgoings for themselves amounting to £1150 per month ( mortgage, bills etc. ) - a copy of which in their own hand writing I have.

NRP works cash in hand mostly although does record some income through the books. NRP claims to not co-habit or have any other financial support or income from any source.

I have applied for a variation form as income is obviously being hidden as no-one can live on £400 i a month when they have £1150 going out. I'm not That bad at maths.

Would it be a god idea to provide a copy of these outgoings in the NRP's hand writing along with the Variation Request by way of proving that the lifestyle of the NRP is vastly in excess of stated income.

Anything else I need to provide by way of supporting eveidence ( such as I know NRP operates 3 bank accounts, bought very expensive over £200 each Xmas pressies, is goinb on a 2 week expensive holiday shortly etc. )

Thanks

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30 Mar 10 #195353 by Elle
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naffedhubby,

Any evidence you have obtained legally imho should be used when it comes to the financial issues in divorce. Not that this is always needed or taken into account by the court :angry: IME the court ignored my evidence (I was LIP) and accepted the hearsay of the ex and his sol...good news is that it did come back to haunt them :laugh:

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31 Mar 10 #195508 by happe
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Im in a somewhat similar situation. When I told my ex I was going to the csa he threatened to sign on (had his own business for 20 odd years) when a couple of months later I carried out my threat I found he had indeed started claiming benefits. I called them straight away and said that i knew he was still working, could even name some of the places he was working. They told me to report him toi the benefits office which I did. 7 weeks later I get a call from the csa telling me he is no longer claiming (I wonder why) and is being re evaluated. In the mean time he has to continue to pay £5 per week. I spoke to them yesterday as they sent me a letter telling me id been over paid by £10 ( was a mistake and they hadnt) and I asked if now he is is not claiming a nd I believe that to be because he has been found out whether they would be looking at his income from December when I first claimed. "No" is the answer, not even if he was he was commiting fraud. So I asked when could I expect a proper amount "in 3 months" so youll look at his bank statements then? " No we cant look at bank statements only business accounts" but he runs his business through his private bank account and accounts are very easy to fiddle, do you not check bank statements to see real income? "No"
So in effect because he is self employed he can basically put together a dodgy set of accounts for 3 months showing that he earns a pittance and me and my 2 kids get to continue to live on the poverty line. I work full time as a teacher and my 2% payrise last year put me just over the limit to recieve any help with my rent which is £750 a month while he continues to live very comfortably in the FMH with a mortgage of £200. Cannot wait to get him into court. Just as a aside, when we have to fill in form E and provide 12 months worth of statements do I get to see his? Hope so cos Im going to the benefits people, csa and my MP with em. Let them explain how its been fair.

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09 Apr 10 #197178 by winnie68
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I've just fallen victim to this myself. I pursued the csa on the advice of my solicitor. My stbx is self employed. He pays himself £2000 a month but his accountant has doctored his wage so that on paper he only earns 200 a week. So now in effect the 200 a month he was paying me is now £34 a week for 2 kids. There's absolutely nothing i can do about it either. He's now laughing in my face.

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10 Apr 10 #197381 by Donelovinhim
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winnie68 wrote:

I've just fallen victim to this myself. I pursued the csa on the advice of my solicitor.


Me too. The stbx then lied saying he had 50% shared care as we are all still in the MH. Only he could be away a week at a time. Is rarely home before 7pm and is with ow every weekend from Fri to Sun.
Now csa only pay me £35 p/wk and it takes 12 days to get from his account to mine via csa. They told me (ready for this) that the computer tells them when it's paid out. Friggin Gordon Brown again:angry:
Havnt appealed as i'll probably be out of here before it gets through.
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12 Apr 10 #197792 by femellabates
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yes , send in as much as you can. i am a csa employee, i can assure you it will be looked at. a member of the criminal compliance team will visit him to explain the income he presents agianst the evidence you have provided. his bank accounts can be seen via our system which has access to all credit and loans etc.

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17 Apr 10 #198981 by NewHorizons
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I'm afraid that I've given up with the CSA. If I'm lucky I get £32-ish a month for the four children, every now and then £53 a month (or there abouts).

He has two jobs, has told the CSA about one, and even though I've been asking now for 3 years to have something done, they claim not to have received any of my communications...

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I find its just something I was getting stressed about when I have enough to do with four children on my own :laugh: While it's "only" money, it has severely limited choices with moving on in life.

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