When husband's moves his other woman in

15% 1 child
20% 2 children
25% 3 or more

The csa have no interest in outgoings

chimp wrote:

The csa have no interest in outgoings

No not on CSA 2 cases after March 03 , it is just the straight % of NRP income.

Well at least now they have set a percentage and is known and standard.

I was with a guy for a few years, ex wife of 4 years got jealous and bitter and went straight to the CSA. Father had been paying every month, on the dot, never failed an agreed amount. This amount was £200pm back in 1999. He also used to have him one night a week and every sat/sun.

When the CSA calculation came through it was £450.00 per month. He was only earning £800pm. It crippled him and me, and made him look a complete a***e to his son, as he never had any money to do anything with him, or give him a bit of pocket money.

We spent 4 years trying to explain to the CSA. Went to Independent Case Examiner, might as well have written in invisible ink. MP, mmmmm. Waste of time. At that time the rate of suicide was shocking.

Four months before he was due to stop paying, I managed to contact them and spoke to someone, never know who they are, they seem to disappear from the face of the earth once you have spoken to them. She reassessed it, he should have been paying £80.pm. Did we get a refund:woohoo: Let you guess that one.

The worst thing was the mother used to give the son £80pm pocket money, she earned more than my ex partner, that made his dad look great eh?

I think that they are the most damaging body in place, for the sake of the children. Robotic idiots if you ask me.

Another friend, current one, has waited 18 months to be paid anything. Her ex has sent the money to the CSA, but they cannot trace it.

The whole thing wall a total mess.

zara

Cases of the missing money, if a NRP is required to pay £300 and they pay £320 the case don't tally so system rejects the amount, they then do it by hand which they says takes 5 weeks hmmmm they could walk to someone's house quicker.
My sister is still waiting for money from her ex has only taken 9 yrs so far and not 1p even though she has a liability order it's not worth the ink it's written in.
Going back to your case Zara this is why they bought in the straight % as it was a too complicated format working out everything.
The system is still far from perfect alot of rules need changing i don't agree with relevnt other children coming first , nor do i agree in my case the bio child has a disability for which he gets DLA for the CSA does not take this into account yet if it was a relevant other child recieving DLA the CSA takes that childs disability into account , double standards if you ask me.

Hi Angel,
You are right. This organisation is there for the children. In the first instance it was designed for the
'father that refused to pay'. Unforunately it became such a useful tool to threaten with. Mainly because of the above, they mananged to lose details, calculations seem to be so ad hoc. No structure at all. It was well known that the system, was completely and totally unfair and would send shivers down the spine of anyone threaten with CSA!!!

Quite rightly so, they caused so much heartache and poverty in their attempt to provide for the children.One month, just before Xmas they took two months from standing order £950.00 because they said he was in arrears!!! Even with solid proof, payments slips, bank statements they would not entertain the fact they were wrong. That was closely followed by an attachement of earnings order, because he was in arrears. Mind you that was the best thing that happened. At least there was a good record of payment. I would advice anyone to apply for an attachment of earnings order. Much easier.
The Independent Case Examiner did not even pick up this error. What does that say about them. I would award them the 'Even thicker than the CSA' award.

My ex partner never ever refused or moaned about paying for his child (as I said he did this for 3 years before I met him, on the dot). It should not be used as a punishment or a weapon for the jealous.

Thankfully now they might have at least reduced the mistakes. The probability of eradicating them altogether is minute, I am sure.

It still discriminates against children, as your story comfirms. Hardly fair.

It works both ways, I feel for the mothers that are literally pulling their hair out tring to support their children. Fathers that just walk away and think that they have no responsibility. As I said my friend as well as your sister, HOW DOES THE SYSTEM FAIL!!!

zara

Forgot to say that he also signed the house over to her, he received nothing at all.
The mortgage was minute. No provisions or mesher order.

For the first three months after she had contacted the CSA, she did not receive a penny, i lost count of the times she came around to the cottage, banging on the door calling him names, I was a whore spending her money. The nasty letters, I could go on.

Even when we proved that we had given the money to the CSA we were baraged with abuse from her. Shouting at her son,, 'see that tight git is not paying for you he does not care, I am getting no money' She still managed to buy a holiday home in Devon though! She was full of spite, if we were 2 mins late, having phoned her prior, saying bad traffic be there soon, she would slam the door in my ex-partners face. She would never come to a compromise on travel. At one point we could not afford to fill the petrol tank up, but she still would not come half way - 5 miles!!!! Nice.

I would just utter a word of warning, if you are getting what you think is fair each month for your children, leave it like that, get the CSA involved and YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

I must admit when I see posts asking if they should involve the CSA I have to refrain from replying. I suppose it is not all doom and gloom for all

zara