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Children''s Passports

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20 Aug 13 #405013 by Forseti
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Since children are dual nationals could you not agree to hold a set each?

Father keeps British ones.

Mother keeps whatever foreign country the are a citizen of.


But Mum is a flight risk.

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20 Aug 13 #405030 by WYSPECIAL
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Forseti wrote:

WYSPECIAL wrote:

Since children are dual nationals could you not agree to hold a set each?

Father keeps British ones.

Mother keeps whatever foreign country the are a citizen of.


But Mum is a flight risk.


True but she currently has both sets of passports. We don''t know the country of issue of the foreign passports but she may be able to get replacements without the fathers permission anyway.

One set each may just be a chance to co-operate.

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27 Aug 13 #405638 by Plumka
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Hi All,

thank you for your responses. Just a quick update:

The Mother refused to give the Father her consent to take the children on a one day trip to Calais, even though the Father requested this in advance through her solicitor and from her directly, provided all proposed details, including the date and travel times there and back, and this was during his contact time with the children. She wanted the Father to book and pay the expensive travel ticket first, only then she was willing to consider if she will give her consent or not. Furthermore, even though she is a flight risk, she refused to provide the Father with even copies of details of children passports - both UK and foreign ones (not EU, and more difficult to get the children back if she absconds). We had no other option than to file an application for Specific Issue Order this morning.
Another example of such waste of everyone''s time, money and clogging up courts.

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27 Aug 13 #405646 by Forseti
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It is, as you say, a terrible waste of time, money and court time, but some parents make it necessary. I am so sorry it has come to this.

I can''t see any reason why the court won''t grant the order. The problem is that this may well exacerbate an already delicate situation and create future problems over contact.

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01 Jul 15 #463553 by HappyOneDay
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I have just read through this thread from a year ago and it is quite current for me. I wonder if anyone has any other bright ideas of a neutral place to hold passports, other than one of the parent''s solicitors?
I had advice that the Family Court would be a good place but they refused. I know a neutral, nearby solicitor would be an option. Would they charge for this service?
I am voluntarily agreeing to have this in place, as my ex believes that I am a flight risk due to ''alleged'' wrongful removal. His solicitors have given me a very difficult time in getting the passports when I need them, so I do not want to continue this arrangement. I represent myself.
Ideas? There are two sets of passports, UK and another country where I am from originally. Thank you.

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01 Jul 15 #463555 by Plumka
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Hi, I can only tell you what happened in our case. As the Mother didn''t want to hand over the passports to the Father even for a short trip to France, we had to revert back to Court. Even though the Mother was identified as a high risk and there was a PSO in place preventing her from leaving the country with the children, the Judge said that it is not a common practice to take the passports away from her. So we now have a Court Order in place that states that the Mother keeps the passports, but has to provide them to the Father when he wishes to take the children out of the country and has to give him a copy of each passport every time she renews these.
Not sure this helps, but it sort of resolved the issue. All the best!

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03 Sep 15 #466289 by HappyOneDay
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If children''s passports are the property of the Home Office, is there a place in the Home Office that will hold them?

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