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csa tribunal - self employed deprivation of income

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06 Aug 11 #281586 by bluepurse
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Just got the results of a very long drawn out tribunal and I am livid.
He had capital of way way more than £65k which he has spent on virtually rebuilding his house - two dishwashers in one kitchen for him and his wife - if thats not a waste of money I dont know what is! Persuaded them all of his expenditure was necessary - posh wedding and 5 weeks honeymoon in South Africa etc etc etc. No bank statements or receipts were asked for. He recently went self employed and received £120,000 of which he said he only receive £12,000 salary but he paid £30,000 into a private pension. Decision recd this morning was that was money paid by his company into a pension, it was not income that he received! Could have been income - he just chose to pay it into a pension! So after spending £120,000 capital on his house, wedding and honeymoon and then earning £120,000
and coming out with £12k the CSA thinks that is reasonable!! Do I just give up now and wish away the next 8 years of having to deal with him and the CSA cos at the moment I could just tell the CSA what to do with their £100 pcm Im getting!!

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06 Aug 11 #281593 by sillywoman
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I will never understand how some nrp will often do everything they can to prevent having to help financially support their own children. Its absolutely disgusting.

The only thing I can come up with is that they are bitter towards the rp, but in addition know that, whatever, the rp will never let the children go without, so ultimately it is the rp who suffers and not the children, which seems what the nrp is wanting.

Blue - if you can afford to - let it go. Continually chasing is only giving the childrens father attention which ultimately is what he may desire.

Look after the children as best as you can and get on with living your life.

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06 Aug 11 #281602 by bluepurse
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You are right I know. I ended the marriage so he is bitter I ruined his mapped out future so financially he is punishing me and now he is making it almost impossible for kids to see him and he thinks that is punishing me too cos I get no break at all. But he just cannot see it is the kids suffering not me!

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06 Aug 11 #281604 by justgoaway
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As Sillywoman has said I will never understand any NRP who is wealthy but who will go to the ends of the earth not to pay maintenance...I also have an ex like that.
I think they think the CM is for the RP when infact truth is that if I didnt have to do the food shop each week with a calculator and rob Peter to pay Paul each month the kids could have treats which they cant right now.
My ex is also self employed and I tried for 4 years to make the CSA see sense but to no avail!
Him and his wife live in a HUGE house (6 beds for the 2 of them and a toddler!) which they bought in 2009 while he was telling the CSA through his accountant he was earning less than £100 a week!! Wish I could get a 400K mortgage on £100 a week ;).
A few months ago I got a letter saying I had been awarded a grand total of £5 a week for the 2 little ones...wow....it's going to buy such a lot...
Anyway, still yet to see a payment of it thanks to CSA's very effective collection service (excuse the sarcasm) and now I've decided to let my ex rot in his wealth and hope that the little ones learn as they grow up that it was ME and ME alone who provided for them.
If my ex truly wants to move heaven and earth NOT to pay then the kids mean nothing to him....so stuff him.
Oh, and I've had an email from him to say hes going off working in Dubai....not even bothering getting the CSA to investigate that...hes a loser, a waste of space and the kids hate him already at 5 and 7 so their views on him at 15 and 17 will be interesting if he's still around!

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06 Aug 11 #281608 by bluepurse
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Your case seems to be exactly the same as mine! I think it could make RPs ill if they dwell on it too much. The government want parents to do it all amicably but they have obviously never had to deal with exes like we have. He has a modern 4 bed house, which he has extended, reconfigured the rooms, moved the staircase!!!, and put a new kitchen in with 2 dishwashers!!! and there are only 2 of them!! Yet he is deemed as earning £1000 a month!

Just have to give up and hope when the kids have bills rolling in they appreciate what we have done for them

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06 Aug 11 #281629 by justgoaway
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It's pathetic isnt it?
When the CSA were doing their criminal compliance investigation on my ex I called the officer for an update (this is about a year ago) and she said "well...I think you're going to be in luck...I've just seen his house!" (6 bed massive).
Then she went on to tell me there were a lot of inconsistencies in the accounts he'd supplied.
I got my hopes up.
After his interview though the officer phoned me to say they had nothing on him...she had completely changed her tune and even told me (in a roundabout way) that I was out of order stopping him seeing the kids! This is completely untrue...the kids themselves wont go as they hate his wife who is unkind to them and he wont tell his Mrs to back down! After a few forced visits my ex decided himself he wasnt going to pressurise the kids into seeing him.
I was just speechless!
Anyway, back to the subject...I've had it with the CSA...they're useless.
How any NRP can own a recently bought 6 bed house, be a 3 car (new cars, not bangers) household, be abroad almost monthly, have work contracts in Dubai, own 2 businesses etc etc etc and be earning under £100 and have this believed is beyond me!
I earn £100 a week, my partner is a low earner and we have our incomes topped up by tax credits and housing benefit and we cant live anything like my ex and his Mrs. We have to rent as dont earn enough for a mortgage, we share 1 car, have to save all year for a very budget, out of school holidays time holiday etc.
How do these crooks do it?

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06 Aug 11 #281634 by bluepurse
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Your story sounds the same as mine! And I just love your name!! Guess we just need to give up, be grateful we arent with them any more and look after our kids as best we can. The CSA seem to have rules, then they just ignore them! Our holiday is a few nights in a youth hostel and I am sure we will all have a fab time!!

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