CSA3.... Paying even more!

So under CSA3 I will be paying even more in maintenance. Good God, how do these MP''s come up with it. TAX/TAX/TAX, middle income earners are being hit from all sides, and I for one am fed up with it.

Do the CSA shared care bands stay the same, ie: 52 - 104 days per week, 105 - 155 days per week etc etc?

My ex wants me to have kids less, which I have to fight her in court for. Not only will I be paying more anyway for the shared care I have, but I will be absolutely hammered if I drop down to the lower band(she gets her way in court).

There is no way that CSA3 is any fairer to the NRP than CSA1 or CSA2 was/is.

It''s all a tax on fatherhood. I mean, if my wages go up more, I pay more in child maintenance, if some payment goes up along with wages, that''s a tax, right?

Mothers will still be able to get away with financially destroying the NRP.

I have just done a calculation based on my annual salary with shared care of 5 days / fortnight. I cannot afford to keep this house where my kids live for part of the week. I will have to downsize to a two bedroom apartment. My son will have to sleep with me. My kids will lose their friends here, my kids will lose their bedrooms, their identity with this home(because it is a home no matter what the CSA say). And if NRP''s cannot keep our kids in our own homes(ie: we go to a relatives for a night because I don''t have the money to pay for heating) then it cannot be counted as shared care, and I may drop down another band.

Nor will I be able to afford to buy ANYTHING at all for my kids when they are with me. The CSA/Stakeholders/NambyPambys/NRPHatingPWC''s/MP''s all think that one home for a kid is good enough, well, that''s what I think anyway, cos the NRP has no money and no rights to make a home for them also, and I think that is the subtext behind all this. No-one gives a damn about the NRP as long as the kids have their PWC home.
What I think I am trying to say is that, all the CSA stakeholders are trying to make it so that the NRP CANNOT have shared care at all, so must pay it all to the PWC. The new rule that defaults the NRP to one night per week (if there is a ''dispute'' in the number of nights an NRP has the kids) is the smoke and mirrors to try to deflect scrutiny away from that.

And what is a ''dispute''? Could a PWC claim to the CSA that the NRP only had the kids one night per week, but the NRP actually had the kids more than this, but the NRP gets hammered for extra maintenance (allowance of only one night per week) until there is some sort of resolution? Would the NRP get all the extra money refunded, going by CSA history, I wouldn''t hold my breath.

There is also the 25% new rule. If you are doing overtime or oncall and it is taken into consideration for the CM payment, and the overtime/oncall stops, if the difference in salary is less than 25%, then tough on the NRP who is already on the breadline, cos the maintenance payment will not reduce until the next yearly review(if there is a yearly review and the CSA are up to date).

It''s getting to the stage where I am considering that I cannot have my kids at my home, because trying to make a NRP home is too expensive. I may as well pay all the maintenance, go live in a one bedroom apartment/tent freezing every day, eating horsemeat(or T''cos everyday meals to you and me), and never hope to have another relationship ever again(who wants a relationship with a man that has no money, but works 50hours per week to stand still).

Children need Fathers, but this CSA/Government two headed devil from the underworld would rather the children be brought up with the PWC and her possible partner.

Then there''s also the £10 charge they will take from your Dole if you happen to lose your job, good luck being able to afford horsemeat then, you''ll have to make do with rat!


Unfreakingbelievable.

Yet another sign that MP''s or IDS in person is far removed from reality in their ivory towers.

When the divorce comes up, where am I going to get the money to pay for that?

If my car breaks down and I cannot pick my kids up, where is the money to pay to fix it.


Who can sell their house in this economy?

Hi,I think that the word ''rape'' should not should be used in any context other than the one it is designed for. However on every other point I completely agree with you! There are no clear guidelines,calculations, or dates for implementations! I just know that NRP''s will be NAILED!!!

Rape is the word I would use to describe what is being done to me/will be done to me.

I have asked my ex wife to enter into a private agreement so I can keep this house, pay her out of it, and have my home for my kids. Admittedly, I would be asking my ex to take less than the CSA would rob from me. But, she wants to get the CSA involved yet again. So, I want to ask, what mother in their right mind would set the CSA rottweilers onto a father that wanted to take care of his kids, knowing that, once the CSA has chewed through his femur, he can no longer take care of his kids? Beggars belief.

Strong word mate, to some people who have actually experienced this awful experience, they will find your misuse of this word extremely inappropriate, thoughtless, wreckless and upsetting...

I would have to agree that the use of that word is inappropriate and am sure you were expressing your frustration, just not perhaps choosing an appropriate means of describing it.

I completely understand your situation though. I was in a position where I felt my ex could not only with hold my children, but I would have to pay the CSA for the privilege!!!!

I don''t know the answer to your situation, other than to pay what the CSA say and make sure that your children know you have always done everything you can to support them as best you can under the circumstances.

I would also ensure that you keep a diary of when you have your children and perhaps even take a photo of them with you when they stay overnight.
This may sound ridiculous, but if she phones the CSA in 8 months time and states you have been refusing to have your children overnight, they will hit you with arrears and it will be down to whoever provides the best evidence as to whether they enforce those arrears or not. I have been there and thankfully had my diary and photos etc to prove the time I had with my children.
Good luck

I cannot think of another word which carries as much meaning I''m afraid. If I could, I would edit the posts now and change the word to something else.

Financially ruined? destroyed?