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have the money but dont want it to go to kids

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10 Nov 09 #160899 by julie321
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Is it gross income or net income that CSA is based on? nbm1708 says taxable income, this is gross isn't it.
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10 Nov 09 #160901 by Trevor53
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Well as someboby who gets nothing I get a bit peeved with the notion that kids are a 50% joint venture therefore the dad pays up, sorry that is a 50% joint venture when the mother has parental responsibility. And by the way the op did say that his ex had given up work and therefore expected more.
If I said that I fancied a life of Riley and swan about at home all day so pay me more I think that my request would be biven very short shrift.
So why is it it not 50/50 therefore the mother has to stay at work to support the kids.
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10 Nov 09 #160903 by julie321
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Cant understand anyone male or female who doesn't want to support their kids. My ex left three months ago and he does pay to my daughter but equally ALL money I may have to spare and that is not much goes to her and my son who is at uni. If you have kids you should support them.
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10 Nov 09 #160909 by itma
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Wow Dereknjan, I understand that a lot of men think they've gotten the thin end of the wedge, both financially and in terms of access, but your posting takes the biscuit. (I'm a bloke by the way).
Kids are a joint venture. You haven't paid anywhere near 50% since the day you split. You haven't even paid 20%. Averaged over the period you've probably paid less than 10% of your income for YOUR two children. Get real mate, put your hand in your pocket, and tell your second wife that YOUR kids are more important than her handbags and gladrags, your holidays and your cars. She'll not miss that third handbag. And you can't cuddle a car.

And Trevor, how can you support Derek's position? It doesn't need analysis and debate. It's just plain wrong.
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10 Nov 09 #160910 by nbm1708
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Trevor53 wrote:

Well as someboby who gets nothing I get a bit peeved with the notion that kids are a 50% joint venture therefore the dad pays up, sorry that is a 50% joint venture when the mother has parental responsibility. And by the way the op did say that his ex had given up work and therefore expected more.
If I said that I fancied a life of Riley and swan about at home all day so pay me more I think that my request would be biven very short shrift.
So why is it it not 50/50 therefore the mother has to stay at work to support the kids.


Trevor as someone who'se had to take his ex wife to the CSA and they've had to make pay for her child that lives with me as I already do for the two children still with her I'm with you that both parents should pay. Even then my ex won't fully disclose her income only the 16 hours minimum pay and is nasty to her son on all levels then complains he won't stay overnight with her.

Yes you did read that the Resident Parent had given up work however her husband has taken on her responsibilities. Do you not think realistically that two teenage 15 year old girls cost more a couple of hundren pounds a month for their share of everything?

Did you not read that whereas one parent has been budgeting the other has been living beyond their means?

That one parent has been saving for their future education whereas one parent has been having, by their own admission, 3 expensive holidays plus two brand new sports cars?

You cannot seriously be saying that this parent has the perfect excuse to get out of paying for anything for his first children because his ex gave up work and that her second husband should foot not 50% of the bill but a 100%? Particularly after shortchanging them for the first 15 years of their life?

I think on £60k a year this parent is not on the breadline like some parents but is using the excuse life is for living to create as much debt as possible and ignore his first children.

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10 Nov 09 #160915 by alchemist
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have just read your posting and to be honest it has made me really really sad. I do not understand why you do not want to pay the appropriate amount for the twins that you and your ex created together. Children are your responsibility for life and saving for them to go onto university or at least have that opportunity is what any reasonable and mature parent would want for their kids.

it is irrelevant whether your ex has remarried, it is irrelevant if she is a millionaire... it is irrelevant whether she has chosen to be a stay at home Mum ....

you are their Dad and they are your responsibility...and going onto have a second family is not a justification for not supporting your children.

From your posting I hate to be blunt but you really do need to grow up and face up to your responsibilities.

I would be saying the same to any nrp regardless of gender or earning capacity... pay what you are supposed to be paying for the benefit of your children and not what you can get away with.
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10 Nov 09 #161054 by blame
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Hi there I am trying to recover finacially from an expensive divorce and am working in Spain for a spanish company. As i know my ex wifes financial situation is far better than mine. She has the child, i know with the huge payment that i gave her in settlement for the divorce together with benefits she can survive well. I need to be able save up some money to pay off debts. Exwife and solicitor are threatening to take me to court and charge me court fees if i dont come up with periodical payments.
The question is can they force me to pay maintenance whilst i am living and working in Spain?
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