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29 Sep 11 #290027 by survive
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To update on this a bit further and hopefully help asome of you other Wiki's if you have had/are having similar problems.

Escalated this issue quite rapidly last week, as noted my sons "cry for help"

Visited school, spoke to head.
Required a caf form.
visited gp for this - to no avail
back to school
rapid progress - had chat with senco teacher.
they had chat with son, he fully opened up and confirmed evrything he said to me to them and more....
school informed dad ( I know sad that I as mother unable to, but dad clearly doesn't want to hear it from me as "the children are fine when they are with him" - have informed him before.)
teacher arranged meeting for both parents to discuss issues


Will update you on the progress of the meeting......


Please also read my updated forum post on what is acceptable? AS this is quite closely linked and probably has a lot to do with children behaviour when they are being told that daddy had to go to court to gain rights to see them..... (which incidentally is a complete lie and they will know this as they have always seen their dad throughout, never ever missed a day, just one day was swapped once last year)

So I now need the courage for this meeting, as I know stbx so clever and manipulative he will try and turn it into a point scoring exexercise and a make him look good and me look bad meeting...has happened so often in the past.... I actually feel quite sick with anxiety about it.... but to remain focused, I am doing this for our son, only and his happiness and welfare

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29 Sep 11 #290103 by Deedum
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It's good that your son has opened up to someone else about this and that some help will hopefully be available to you.

Have you yourself been offered any support - from a parent support adviser or someone similar as I am sure you would benefit from this outside help. It would also hopefully give you the confidence to deal with your ex on child related issues.

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29 Sep 11 #290121 by fairylandtime
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Hi Survive

Great that you son opened up & spoke to someone at school & glad things are going forward.

Feel for you re the meeting for both parents though - don't want things getting into a slanging match (which it probably would with me & my X).

I would say you definitely need support here, (rescue remedy is very good at calming nerves) the school need to be aware of all issues & any concerns you have re the meeting & you need to keep it very child focused & on your son the issues he is facing & your perception (as that is all you can give), especially as your ex's perception seems to be that he is fine with him etc etc.

Good luck & Stay Strong
JJx

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11 Oct 11 #292072 by survive
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Hi Wiki's this was a blog last week but was/is very relevant to this post re: school meeting.


Incidentally to add, the children have now been told by my stbx with me present. Can update on what was said with pm if anyone would like to know, or I may post. Just being cautious.


Well you would like to think that nearly 2years on, still not divorced due to finnancial wars, but there would be some respite, some peace.... but no it still like a raging war. And I am tired oh so very tired. emotionally I am drained. I feel a bit like groundhog day.

This time last year, my dad was very ill and I had a lot of stress from that, also a very coomplicated form E to complete and to analyse (his being the size of a telephone directory, no joke).

Now, one year one, my dad has become ill again, I am still trying to do the best for my 3 young children. One of my children is having a lot of emotional problems, is it no surprise, these have festered and now come out in the midst of the "the war". I am working part time and also trying to find more work and have the next part of FDR looming., trying to assist eldest with an impoirtant exam and also look at senior schools.



stbx has/is now totally on the war path. He has got into my bones, my head ( I hate to say), his vile bullying, lying and controlling way has really made me reach bottom again. I have spent a lot of the last week in tears, pulling myselkf togother for the sake of my job etc. But I can feel that I feel low. I just want to go to bed and hide, dissappear, run away. I HAVE HAD ENOUGH. I know some of you Wiki's have had longer, but for me 2 years of fighting has completely drained me. Don't get me wrong there have been good times, especially more so in the last year, when I have re gained a lot of my confidence, dated,, passed exams, holidayed. But right now at this moement in time, I am physically and emotionally drained.

Probably becuase my eldest is having so many emotional problems and home is like a war zone too. He is sooooo angry. He has tole me he blames me for his dad not being here. He has also told a third party that he feels able to express his feelings and vent his anger to me but wants to keep dad happy. Ameeting was held (some of you may have read my forum posts). Alot was discovered, not all aimed at dad or me. Eldest said his biggest problem was mum and dad split, then the reason why (which he still doesn't know). stbx then replied to this ... well if he's going to know the reason hw has to know the real reason of what happened 2 years prior!!!!!! stbx had an affair lasting 6 months, whilst continuing reltionships with me, and also giving the facade that everyhting was happy to me, other people and mainly thr children. He also had an affair some 13 years prior to this and called off out original wedding in the process, this lasted nearly a year, with the same lady.

Apparantely stbx had told me 2 years before that he was unhappy (once), no suggestion of councelling, no repeat conversations, no stopping of intimicay. Oh dear dear I must have missed something obvious.!!! When stbx said this in the meeting re: what to tell the children, it just confirmed to me that he is in complete denial of what he has done. Blaming me for the fact that he had an affair. He will not accept and hsn't done any part of the blame and does not want to look in the wrong to the children or anyone else. He has spent the last 2 years, bad mouthing me to anyone who will listen. some get taken in by him, some can see through him. He has tried and tried to destroy me in so many ways as some of you may know from reading blogs or forums.

Now this is affecting the children, more than it was before. I initiated a meeting re: eldest, dues to the fact I was concerned about his emotional state. Lotsa has happened over the summer (see forum posts).

Have now received a letter from stbx sol, immediately afetr meeting at school saying that he was concerned for eldest and that eldest had serious issues with me and that if the relationship between my eldest and I did not improve he would be taking matters further!!!! HOW DARE HE.... It was I that started the meetings due to my concern. It was I that didn't kick him out when I was informed of affair, to protect the children. It was I that all along have done everything I can to protect the children from the truth, involve their dad in everything. He says that son and I have serious iossues (no mention of him in any of this) Can't wait for the minutes to reveal the whole truth.

It iis him that has, threatned to arrest me, took me to court for defined access (which has always remained constant) and then cut money per month, cut my phone, threatned me with SOL letters (inicidentally his cost are 21,000 and mine 5,000), never been thankful, only asbusive and argumentative over every mail)

To now threaten that he will take matters further if the relationship between my son and I!!!!!! I have requested the minutes of this meeting as yet again he seems to have twisted the truth to try and make me look bad. I have so many e.mails where this is evident and apparent too. Is there an actual name for this copulsive lying and for reading/hearing one thing and then twisting it to say something completely different? I'm sure it must be an actual illness. He has tried to implyy that I am insane a few times.... pot and kettle springs to mind. He accuses me of not saying or doing things and I simply re-send on e.mails wher it clearly states to the contrary. Oh, but of course no apology, no I beg your pardon.

He was inetent on trying to bad mouth me in the meeting re: eldest (i don't think, I hope it didn't wash). But he is oh so convincing, so manipulative. He seems to win at all the evil games he is playing. He is screwing me finnancially, self employed and getting away with it). He lies to the children and has even resorted into telling them about our court cases etc.... how sick and how damaging. I could go on and on, there is so much to tell. A lot of my friends say they have never known anyone like it before.



Things is, I am feeling drained, tearful, tired. I know I have to keep strong for the children. I know a lot of my friends probably think oh, how can it still be going on and feel as bad 2 years later. But when you have someone intent on destroying you... well, there is the answer., Why can't he just leave me alone and draw a line under this. He has a GF , has had for 18 months.



My whole parenting technique has been blown apart. I have always tried to make time for my children, don't plonk infront of t.v,computer etc. We always chat at dinner time and individually at bedtime. I play with them. help them with homework etc. But it would appear this is not enough. It seems like they are playing one off against the other. But I am getting all the anger and frustration and criticism.

I just feel so low and am struggling. I feel weak and fragile and also so very full of anger and hate again. I have never encountered such a pathetic excuse of a man, so intent on destroying me. And yet it was he who had affair. Everyone says oh be strong you'll bounce back. But I am tired, my brain is fried and I am emotionally exhausted.

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11 Oct 11 #292101 by tinkerbell1606
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I am so sorry to read your post.
You are not alone, many stbx's behave in this unforgivable way. They are unable to see their part in anything, and blame us entirely for the separation & divorce.
Children are used as pawns in the game. It really is sick, but my dear lady ITS NOT YOU!!!
Keeping your side clean and factual really helps, do not engage with him, he is a manipulative bully.
If you feel yourself getting sucked in, disengage, take time out, tell him you will have to get back to him, that goes for dealing with your son too.
This child (bless his heart)is certainly angry, and feels safe enough to share that with you, but its taking its toll.
Put down some ground rules and boundaries about what is and is not acceptable behaviour, maybe buy him a punchbag.
Take care of you, remember you cant look after anyone else if your not looking after yourself.
This will all be over one day, and you will know that you did the right thing.
Take Care

Tink. x

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12 Oct 11 #292206 by survive
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Thanks Tink and thanks for replying.

Just on a bit of a downer at the moment and that is why I posted this as a forum as well as a blog.
Could really use peopl'e support at the moment - you know those virtual hugs!
It just sometimes boosts you up to know that you are not alone and that other people (even though virtual friends - do care)

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12 Oct 11 #292211 by positive99
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Survive,

Just for you (((((hugs)))))

You are doing a fantastic job raising 3 small children alone. Don't forget that.
Your ex is clearly a very manipulative man and is trying to push his own guilt onto you - I too have to deal with this. It is very hard but you have to believe in yourself.

You CAN do it and you ARE doing it.

Keep strong, your children will know that you are always there for them.

Keep posting as well all care about you and want things to improve for you.
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